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Re: Google is evil

Adam — Wed, 23 May 2007 05:03:11 -0000

dofollow is a no brainer now that we have akismet and various other ways of minimisig spam.

Re: Google is evil

KCLau — Wed, 09 May 2007 01:02:51 -0000

Thanks! I will definitely install dofollow!

Re: Google is evil

H Kauffman — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:53:16 -0000

Free stuff has it's good points and it's bad points. Guess what? Just yesterday, I tried logging into an old Yahoo account, which I hadn't logged into it for four months. It's gone. After four months of inactivity, Yahoo deletes these accounts. :( Don't worry though, this account wasn't my main one. Just a quick shout out to even the scales here....

Also, this article wasn't too bad:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/4707

Re: Google is evil

artkauffman — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:44:43 -0000

[quote post="14"]Bit of an overreaction Art old boy. You say Google is evil and also say how you are struggling to SEO your blog ie you want to exploit search engines for personal advantage!

Sure the nofollow attribute on links means that any links you post on other people’s blogs will not boost the linked-to site (in this case your own) in related searches BUT the link will still be there, and anyone reading the article you have commented will be able to follow your link should they feel inclined. Seems fair enough to me really.

Anyway, in case you’re wondering how I got here, no it wasn’t down to your tireless SEO efforts! I actually saw this page on Google’s info page about the rel nofollow attribute; it was listed there under ‘pages that link to this site’….[/quote]

You missed my point. My blog is not an SEO blog, nor is it my objective to get traffic via search engines.

Thanks for stopping by. And I do think it indeed ironic that you commented when you knew the link to your site would be stripped of the "nofollow". ;)

Re: Google is evil

Compton — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:54:11 -0000

Bit of an overreaction Art old boy. You say Google is evil and also say how you are struggling to SEO your blog ie you want to exploit search engines for personal advantage!

Sure the nofollow attribute on links means that any links you post on other people's blogs will not boost the linked-to site (in this case your own) in related searches BUT the link will still be there, and anyone reading the article you have commented will be able to follow your link should they feel inclined. Seems fair enough to me really.

Anyway, in case you're wondering how I got here, no it wasn't down to your tireless SEO efforts! I actually saw this page on Google's info page about the rel nofollow attribute; it was listed there under 'pages that link to this site'....

Re: Google is evil

Tony — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:51:51 -0000

Ben, it sounds like you really don't know what you are talking about. Quality comments are not spam by definition, as they contribute to the discussion and are wanted. The author gets a linkback out of it? Well it's a recognition of his/her contributions.

Virtually all of the "spam" spam is caught by Akismet or Spam Karma plugins.

And you clearly don't know how the WordPress platform works. Or much about good programming practices...

Re: Google is evil

W/E — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:19:03 -0000

If I understand you right... you feel that leaving legitimate spam is okay. Any time you intrude on another persons page, with no regard of what is being said, simply to raise your score on google... you KNOW you already lost. Even "acting" like you care by posting "quality" comments, essentially what you are doing is a prettied up version of spam.

That brings to question... is the way of the blogger to spam other "big boy" blogs (That never needed to spam in the first place) till someone reads his/her blog? How pathetic does THAT sound? Lets make an analogy. Just because Microsoft is big... doesn't mean it's competing companies can post graffiti ads all over it's buildings.

And you know... I find it idiotic that these premade blogger tools STILL have a footer saying "Blog here... attack at will" a simple search for "powered by WordPress 2.1.2" would bring up this site, and a spam blogger auto fills in the fields and submits. Hell... the ONLY reason spam blogging is doable is because so many bloggers are HTML idiots (or php idiots) if you write your own blogging software (or remove all the elements that refer to the creator of said software) then people can't pinpoint your blog as being a blog to spam.

Finally... is it REALLY that hard to remove the code for "nofollow" that you have to use a plugin? You don't even NEED "special software" to edit PHP files... just notepad. Hell, you don't even need to know how to PROGRAM in PHP... just do a search and replace for "nofollow" and replace it with "".

Additionally... not ALL search engines are using this... just a few.

Spammers are idiots... if there are 1 million links to your site on a site... or 1 link... it counts the same (so says "google"... all hail google). They don't know this... but they know enough about the protocol to know that links on many sites = high linkage. And that is what it is really all about... links.

"If you want to be remembered, do something worth the writing, or write something worth the reading"
~Ben Franklin

Re: Google is evil

artkauffman — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:37:43 -0000

:) Right. But probably not for too long.

Re: Google is evil

Kirby Witmer — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:36:09 -0000

Wow. That's amazing we did this at the same time! :)

you think google is evil but you still use their ads? :chuckle:

Re: Google is evil

artkauffman — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:38:45 -0000

Right. It wouldn't be prudent to link to just any site.

Re: Google is evil

Tony — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:14:19 -0000

Well there are some SEO reasons for nofollow. Having every other "cool post" comment link out to an arbitrary location dilutes the value of the links that you do endorse explicitly. My personal choice is to moderate for quality comments that really extend the discussion of the post, and reward those on a case by case basis.

Oh yeah, and it appears that spammers are not educated enough to know what rel='nofollow' is, as automated posts still flood the internet tubes.